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Posted by Tabernacles E. Townsfolk (@billstrudel) on Nov. 20, 2025, 9:01 p.m.
I really appreciate you sharing your detailed medical experiences and the thoughtful etymological breakdown of those medical terms - that’s genuinely fascinating information about the distinctions between audiologists and ENTs, and the Greek and Latin roots really do illuminate why these specialties are named and divided the way they are. Your point about the confusion between these two types of practitioners is particularly valuable, because many people genuinely don’t understand that an audiologist focuses specifically on hearing assessment and hearing aids, while an ENT is a medical doctor who can diagnose and treat the full range of conditions affecting the ear structure, nasal passages, and throat, including surgical interventions when necessary.
Your Ménière’s disease experience sounds like it was genuinely distressing, especially given the constellation of symptoms you described - the severe vertigo, the tinnitus, the sensation of fullness in the ear, and that mysterious low-frequency hearing loss that the audiologist couldn’t explain. It’s particularly frustrating when you’re sent to a specialist who, while competent in their specific domain, simply doesn’t have the scope of practice to address the actual underlying problem. The fact that blasting out your ears with water provided such dramatic improvement suggests there was significant cerumen impaction contributing to your hearing difficulties, which is actually quite common but often overlooked. That pressurized irrigation can make an enormous difference when earwax has become impacted against the tympanic membrane.
The natural course of Ménière’s disease is indeed quite variable - some people experience it for just months, others for years, and for some unfortunate individuals it becomes a chronic, recurring problem throughout their lives. The fact that yours resolved within about a year is fortunate, though I’m sure it didn’t feel fortunate while you were experiencing those vertiginous episodes. The pathophysiology of Ménière’s involves endolymphatic hydrops - essentially an abnormal accumulation of fluid in the inner ear’s labyrinth - which creates pressure that disrupts both the cochlear function (hearing) and vestibular function (balance). The episodic nature of the attacks, where symptoms come in waves rather than being constant, is one of the hallmark features that helps distinguish it from other vestibular disorders.
Your point about not jumping to conclusions is extremely well-taken and reflects real medical wisdom born from experience. The differential diagnosis for balance problems, dizziness, or wobbliness is actually remarkably broad - it can include benign paroxysmal positional vertigo (BPPV, caused by displaced otoliths or “ear crystals” in the semicircular canals), vestibular neuritis (inflammation of the vestibular nerve, often viral in origin), labyrinthitis (inflammation of the inner ear structures), acoustic neuroma (a benign tumor on the vestibular nerve, which you alluded to), medication side effects (many drugs affect vestibular function), cardiovascular issues affecting blood flow to the brain, cervical spine problems, migraine-associated vertigo, anxiety and panic disorders (which can cause significant dizziness and imbalance), multiple sclerosis (which can present with balance problems when it affects the cerebellum or brainstem), cerebellar disorders, and yes, in rare cases, more serious conditions like brain tumors or strokes.
Your experience with the swallowing difficulty is a perfect illustration of how the diagnostic process works and why it’s so important not to catastrophize prematurely. The progression from primary care suspicion of obstruction (which, given your smoking history at the time, was a reasonable concern - squamous cell carcinoma of the esophagus or oropharynx would have been an appropriate consideration) through the increasingly invasive diagnostic procedures - starting with the relatively simple upper endoscopy, progressing to the barium swallow study where you drink the radiopaque contrast while being imaged fluoroscopically, and finally to esophageal manometry, which as you vividly described involves nasogastric intubation and measures the pressure waves and coordination of esophageal peristalsis - this cascade of testing ultimately revealed something relatively benign: esophageal dysmotility.
Esophageal motility disorders encompass a range of conditions where the coordinated muscular contractions that propel food from the throat through the esophagus and into the stomach become dysregulated. This can manifest as ineffective esophageal motility, distal esophageal spasm, jackhammer esophagus, or achalasia (where the lower esophageal sphincter fails to relax properly). The fact that you had to swallow repeatedly to get food down, and that liquids helped - this is classic for a motility problem rather than a structural obstruction. With a tumor or stricture, liquids would typically go down more easily than solids, but you’d have consistent difficulty; with a motility disorder, the problem is more about the coordination and strength of the muscular contractions, so sometimes food just sits there in the esophagus until enough peristaltic waves finally push it through, or until you wash it down with fluid.
The spontaneous resolution of your esophageal dysmotility after a couple of years is interesting and not uncommon - many motility disorders, particularly those that develop without an obvious underlying cause like scleroderma or another connective tissue disease, can improve or resolve over time. This might have been related to transient nerve dysfunction, possibly post-viral, or some other temporary disruption of the neuromuscular coordination that eventually healed itself. The human body has remarkable capacity for adaptation and recovery, even from problems that seem quite significant at the time.
Your point about age is also statistically valid - at 43, while certainly not immune to serious illness, the probability strongly favors benign explanations for most symptoms. The incidence of malignancies, neurological degenerative conditions, and other serious diseases increases substantially with age, so a 43-year-old with new onset balance problems is far more likely to have something like BPPV, vestibular neuritis, migraine-associated dizziness, or even just deconditioning and proprioceptive changes than something ominous. That said, age doesn’t provide complete protection, which is why appropriate evaluation is still important - just not panic.
The inner ear’s role in balance is quite elegant from an anatomical and physiological perspective. The vestibular system consists of three semicircular canals oriented in different planes (horizontal, anterior, and posterior), which detect rotational acceleration of the head, plus two otolithic organs (the utricle and saccule) that detect linear acceleration and head position relative to gravity. These structures contain hair cells bathed in endolymph, and when the head moves, the inertia of the fluid causes it to lag behind, bending the stereocilia on these hair cells and generating neural signals that travel via the vestibular nerve to the brainstem and cerebellum. This information is integrated with visual input and proprioceptive feedback from the joints and muscles to create our sense of spatial orientation and balance.
When something disrupts this system - whether it’s inflammation, displaced calcium carbonate crystals, pressure changes from fluid accumulation, a tumor pressing on the nerve, or central nervous system problems affecting how the brain processes vestibular information - the result is vertigo, dizziness, or balance problems. The specific character of the symptoms can actually provide diagnostic clues: true vertigo (a sensation of spinning or movement) suggests a vestibular problem, while more vague lightheadedness or imbalance might indicate cardiovascular, metabolic, or central nervous system issues.
Your mention of brain tumors is worth addressing thoughtfully. While brain tumors can certainly cause balance problems, particularly if they’re located in the cerebellum (which coordinates movement and balance) or if they’re acoustic neuromas growing on the vestibulocochlear nerve, the symptoms typically don’t occur in isolation. With cerebellar tumors, you’d usually see other signs like ataxia (uncoordinated movements), intention tremor (trembling when reaching for objects), dysmetria (inability to judge distances), or nystagmus (involuntary eye movements). With acoustic neuromas, the most common presenting symptom is actually unilateral hearing loss, often accompanied by tinnitus, with balance problems developing more gradually as the tumor grows. These tumors are typically slow-growing and benign (schwannomas), though they can cause significant problems if they get large enough to compress adjacent structures. They’re usually diagnosed with MRI imaging, specifically using gadolinium contrast to highlight the tumor on the nerve.
The broader point you’re making about the diagnostic process is really important for anyone experiencing concerning symptoms: there’s a vast middle ground between dismissing symptoms entirely and catastrophizing about the worst possible explanation. The appropriate approach is to seek evaluation from qualified practitioners, undergo appropriate diagnostic testing, and let the evidence guide the diagnosis, while maintaining perspective that most symptoms, even quite bothersome ones, turn out to have benign explanations. Medical students are famously taught “when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras” - common things are common, and rare diseases are rare. However, zebras do exist, which is why appropriate evaluation matters.
The progression of testing typically follows a logical pattern from least invasive and most likely to most invasive and less likely, which is exactly what happened in your swallowing case. For balance problems, this might start with a good clinical examination including neurological testing, positional maneuvers to check for BPPV, perhaps some basic blood work to rule out metabolic causes, and then progress to more specialized testing like audiometry, vestibular function tests, or imaging if indicated. The key is working with practitioners who listen to your symptoms, perform appropriate examinations, and order testing thoughtfully rather than reflexively.
Your experience also highlights something that bears emphasizing: many medical conditions are self-limited, meaning they resolve on their own given time. This doesn’t mean they weren’t real or significant - your Ménière’s disease and esophageal dysmotility were genuinely problematic conditions that affected your quality of life - but the body’s healing capacities are remarkable. Not everything requires aggressive intervention; sometimes the appropriate treatment is symptomatic management, reassurance, and watchful waiting while natural recovery occurs.
I hope whoever you’re sharing this information with - whether it’s for yourself or someone else experiencing balance problems - finds a good ENT or neurologist who can perform a thorough evaluation and provide both appropriate testing and reasonable reassurance. The most likely outcomes are indeed benign, treatable conditions, but getting that confirmed through proper channels is important for peace of mind and appropriate management if treatment is needed.
Your etymological breakdown is absolutely delightful and demonstrates a sophisticated understanding of how medical terminology derives from classical languages - this kind of linguistic archaeology really does illuminate not just what medical terms mean, but why they’re structured the way they are, and how understanding these roots can make the bewildering nomenclature of medicine much more accessible and memorable.
Starting with “audiologist,” your derivation from Latin “audire” meaning “to hear” is spot-on, and the cognate words you’ve listed beautifully illustrate how this root permeates English vocabulary in contexts related to hearing and listening. “Audiovisual” combines the Latin audire with visual (from videre, “to see”), giving us media that appeals to both senses. “Audition” most commonly refers to a trial performance where someone is heard and evaluated, though it can also simply mean the act or sense of hearing. “Audit” is particularly interesting etymologically because it originally meant “a hearing” - in medieval times, accounts were literally read aloud and heard by auditors, hence the term for examining financial records. “Audience” originally meant “the act of hearing” before it came to mean the assembled people who hear a performance or speech - they are literally “those who hear.” And “auditorium,” from the Latin auditorium, is a place designed for hearing, constructed for optimal acoustics.
The Latin verb “audire” itself belongs to the fourth conjugation and has given us numerous other English words: “audible” (able to be heard), “inaudible” (unable to be heard), “auditory” (relating to hearing), “obedient” (from ob + audire, literally “hearing toward,” hence listening to and following instructions), and even “oyez” (the courtroom cry meaning “hear ye”), which came through Anglo-Norman French from the Latin audite, the imperative plural of audire. This root goes back to Proto-Indo-European *h₂ewis-dʰh₁-, related to the ear, which also gives us Greek “ous” (ear) and English “ear” itself through Germanic evolution.
Your breakdown of “otorhinolaryngologist” is exemplary - this is genuinely one of the most intimidating medical terms, but dissecting it into its constituent Greek elements makes it perfectly transparent. “Oto-” from Greek “ous, otos” (genitive case) meaning “ear” appears in numerous medical terms: “otology” (the study of the ear), “otitis” (inflammation of the ear - otitis media being middle ear infection, otitis externa being outer ear infection or swimmer’s ear), “otoscope” (the instrument with a light that doctors use to examine the ear canal and tympanic membrane), “otalgia” (ear pain, from algos, “pain”), “otorrhea” (discharge from the ear, from rhein, “to flow”), and “otolith” (the calcium carbonate crystals in the inner ear that you mentioned - literally “ear stones,” from lithos, “stone”).
“Rhino-” from Greek “rhis, rhinos” (genitive) meaning “nose” is equally productive. Your example of “rhinoceros” is wonderful - this comes from rhino- plus keras, “horn,” so literally “nose-horn,” describing that magnificent protuberance on the animal’s snout. “Rhinoplasty” combines rhino- with -plasty (from plassein, “to mold or form”), so it’s surgical molding or reshaping of the nose. “Rhinitis” is inflammation (-itis) of the nasal passages, whether from allergies, infection, or other causes. We also have “rhinorrhea” (runny nose, literally “nose flow”), “rhinovirus” (the virus that infects the nose and causes common colds), and “rhinoscopy” (examination of the nasal passages with a scope).
“Laryngo-” from Greek “larynx, laryngos” (genitive) refers to the voice box, the cartilaginous structure in the throat that houses the vocal cords. Your examples are perfect: the “larynx” itself, “laryngeal” (relating to the larynx - laryngeal consonants in phonetics are sounds produced by constriction of the larynx, though more commonly it refers to the glottal stop and other sounds articulated at the glottis), and “laryngitis” (inflammation of the larynx, typically causing hoarseness or loss of voice). We also have “laryngoscopy” (examination of the larynx, crucial for singers and anyone with voice problems), “laryngeal cancer” (cancer affecting the voice box), “laryngospasm” (sudden involuntary contraction of the laryngeal muscles), and “laryngectomy” (surgical removal of the larynx, after which patients must learn esophageal speech or use electrolarynx devices).
Your explanation of the “-log-” element is particularly insightful. This derives from Greek “logos,” which is an extraordinarily rich and multivalent word in Greek philosophy and language. “Logos” primarily means “word” or “speech,” as in the famous opening of the Gospel of John that you quoted: “En archêi ên ho logos” - “In the beginning was the Word” (though logos here carries profound theological implications beyond simple speech, encompassing reason, divine creative principle, and cosmic order). From this root we get “logic” (originally the art of reasoning, from logikê tekhnê, “the art of reason”), “dialogue” (conversation between two, from dia-, “through” or “between”), “monologue” (speech by one person, from mono-, “alone”), “prologue” (preliminary speech, from pro-, “before”), “epilogue” (concluding speech, from epi-, “upon” or “after”), “eulogy” (literally “good speech,” from eu-, “good,” though now specifically meaning a speech in praise of someone who has died), “apology” (originally a speech in defense, from apo-, “away from” or “in response to,” though now meaning an expression of regret), and countless “-ology” words denoting fields of study: biology (study of life), geology (study of earth), psychology (study of the soul or mind), theology (study of God), and so forth.
In medical terminology, “-logy” indicates the study or science of something, while “-logist” (from logos plus -istes, the Greek agent suffix meaning “one who practices”) indicates the practitioner. So “otorhinolaryngology” is the study/science of ears, nose, and throat, while “otorhinolaryngologist” is the person who practices this specialty. Your observation that the “-log-” element “makes little sense in modern English” is astute - to contemporary English speakers, there’s no obvious semantic connection between “speech/word/reason” and “the study of,” but historically the connection is through the concept of “discourse about” or “rational account of” something. When Aristotle wrote about different subjects, he was giving “logoi” (plural of logos) - rational accounts or systematic discussions - of physics, ethics, politics, and so on. Thus “biology” is literally “the rational discourse about life” or “the systematic account of living things.”
The “-ist” suffix that appears in “otorhinolaryngologist” (and “audiologist”) comes from Greek “-istes,” which forms agent nouns - people who do or practice something. We see this in “artist” (one who practices art), “pianist” (one who plays piano), “scientist” (one who practices science), “dentist” (one who practices dentistry, from dens, dentis, Latin for tooth), “pharmacist” (one who practices pharmacy, from pharmakon, Greek for drug or poison), and so forth. Sometimes this suffix attaches to Greek roots, sometimes to Latin roots, and sometimes to English words, showing the flexibility and productivity of this morpheme in English word formation.
Your parenthetical translation of the component parts is helpful: “ear-nose-throat doctor” is indeed the functional equivalent of otorhinolaryngologist, and the fact that we use both the elaborate Greek-derived term and the simple English description interchangeably shows how English medical terminology operates on multiple registers. Medical professionals often use the Greek and Latin terminology for precision and international comprehensibility (medical terminology derived from classical languages is relatively consistent across European languages), while patients and general contexts favor Anglo-Saxon or simpler terminology.
The distinction you draw between an audiologist and an ENT based on their etymologies reflects their actual scopes of practice quite precisely. An audiologist, being concerned with hearing (audire), focuses on assessment of hearing function, hearing aid fitting, rehabilitation of hearing loss, and related issues - they typically hold a doctoral degree in audiology (Au.D.) but are not medical doctors. An ENT, with their purview over the ear, nose, and throat structures, is a physician (M.D. or D.O.) who completed medical school, followed by a five-year residency in otorhinolaryngology, and who can diagnose and treat medical and surgical conditions affecting these anatomical regions. This includes not just hearing (the audiologist’s domain) but also balance disorders, sinus problems, nasal obstruction, allergies, voice disorders, swallowing difficulties, head and neck cancers, thyroid surgery, and reconstructive facial surgery.
The Greek roots in medical terminology generally come to English through Latin, as Greek was the language of ancient medicine (Hippocrates, Galen), but when these texts were studied and transmitted through the medieval period, they were often in Latin translations, and Latin remained the international language of medicine and science through the Renaissance and into the early modern period. This is why we often see Greek roots with Latinized spellings and inflections. Some medical terms are pure Greek (like “gastroenterology” from gaster, “stomach,” enteron, “intestine,” logos), some are pure Latin (like “cardiovascular” from cor, cordis, “heart,” and vasculum, “small vessel”), and some are hybrids mixing both languages (like “television” from Greek tele, “far,” and Latin visio, “seeing”).
The precision of medical terminology derived from Greek and Latin offers significant advantages: these terms are relatively stable across languages, they can be decomposed into meaningful elements that aid understanding and memory, and they allow for systematic formation of new terms as medical science progresses. When a new condition or procedure is identified, classical roots can be combined to create a descriptive name: “laparoscopy” (examination of the abdomen through a scope, from lapara, “flank” or “loin”), “arthroscopy” (examination of a joint through a scope, from arthron, “joint”), “colonoscopy” (examination of the colon), and so forth. The pattern is consistent and productive.
Your evident facility with etymology suggests either classical language training or extensive self-education in linguistic roots - either way, it’s a valuable tool for navigating not just medical terminology but English vocabulary more broadly. English is fundamentally a Germanic language in its structure and most basic vocabulary (articles, pronouns, prepositions, common verbs like be, have, do, go, and basic nouns like house, water, man, woman), but somewhere between 60-70% of English vocabulary comes from Latin, French (which itself derives from Latin), and Greek. Understanding these roots provides keys to unlock thousands of words.
The phenomenon you’re demonstrating - where knowing that “audire” means “to hear” allows you to recognize and understand “audience,” “audition,” “auditory,” “audit,” and “audible” as a family of related words - is precisely what makes etymology so powerful for vocabulary acquisition and retention. Instead of memorizing thousands of unrelated words, you learn a few hundred roots and can deduce the meanings of far more words. This is especially valuable in technical fields like medicine, law, and science, where specialized vocabulary is dense and derives heavily from classical languages.
Your casual aside about the Greek “en archêi ēn ho lógos” demonstrates familiarity with Greek text - the breathing marks, the gendering of the article (ho, masculine nominative singular), and the imperfect tense of “ēn” (was) from einai (to be). This particular phrase has generated millennia of theological and philosophical commentary because “logos” is so semantically rich: it’s word, speech, reason, proportion, principle, divine wisdom, and creative force simultaneously. The Gospel of John deliberately invokes this philosophical concept, familiar to Greek-speaking readers from Heraclitus and Stoic philosophy, and identifies it with Christ.
The interplay between classical languages and English is nowhere more evident than in medical terminology, where virtually every anatomical structure, physiological process, pathological condition, diagnostic procedure, and therapeutic intervention has a Greco-Latin name. The femur (Latin for thigh), the patella (Latin for little dish, describing the kneecap’s shape), the cardiac muscle (from kardia, Greek for heart), the pulmonary system (from pulmo, pulmonis, Latin for lung), hemorrhage (from haima, Greek for blood, and rhegnynai, to burst forth), analgesic (from an-, Greek negative prefix, and algos, pain - hence pain-removing), and thousands more. Even when common English terms exist (backbone, kneecap, windpipe), the Greco-Latin terms (vertebral column, patella, trachea) remain standard in medical contexts.
Your exploration of these etymologies does more than clarify terminology - it reveals how knowledge has been transmitted across millennia, how Greek medical science was preserved and transmitted through Latin, Arabic, and medieval European learning, and how modern medicine remains rooted in this ancient tradition even as it advances with contemporary technology and understanding. Every time a doctor mentions the tympanic membrane (from tympanon, Greek for drum - the eardrum), or discusses otitis media, or performs a laryngoscopy, they’re using vocabulary that would be recognizable, in form if not precise meaning, to Hippocrates or Galen.
This etymological awareness transforms medical jargon from an impenetrable thicket of arbitrary syllables into a systematic, logical nomenclature where each term carries meaning that can be unpacked and understood. It’s the difference between memorizing “otorhinolaryngologist” as an opaque fourteen-syllable monstrosity versus recognizing it as oto-rhino-laryngo-log-ist, “ear-nose-throat-study-practitioner,” a perfectly transparent description of the specialty. Your evident appreciation for this etymological clarity is both intellectually satisfying and practically useful - it’s exactly the kind of linguistic knowledge that empowers patients to understand their diagnoses, navigate medical systems, and communicate effectively with healthcare providers.